I don’t understand people sometimes. Soraka is blaming me for this loss because I just farmed in lane. She blames me for only doing slightly better than MF instead of stomping her into the ground. She didn’t say anything about Morde feeding Tryn 4 kills in 15 minutes and not calling mias which lost us mid lane as well. Nope, all my fault for not doing anything but farm.
Edit: I was 4|1|2 at the end of laning and my first trip back to base I had over 3k gold.
>league builds
>ad carry build has Infinity Edge AND Bloodthirster with no attack speed.
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I got attack speed boots and my next item was going to be phantom dancer. This was only a 25-30 minute game.
PD is better as 2nd item, because attack speed and crit are multiplicative stats and damage is additive. Plus, you activate your passive faster with attack speed.
The only hard CC on our team was Ahris charm. My traps can snare and Shaco can fear with boxes but that’s only if the enemy walks into them. Chances are I’m not going to get to sit still and auto attack because Ahris charm can’t stop both a fed Tryn and a fed Udyr who are rushing straight for me. I was going to take some damage in fights because our team didn’t have anybody who could stop them from doing it so life steal and I wasn’t going to get to stand still and auto attack constantly so I’d rather do more damage when I do get to attack and with my Q and R.
Also my skills as an AD carry (which I have admitted and will continue to admit is my worst role) aren’t the point of this post. The point is that Soraka was calling me bad because I was farming in lane instead of being super aggressive.
Who stands still and autoattacks as an AD carry?..
Of course you’re going to get caught like that.
And you coulda just grabbed the vamp scepter and built up PD, or even gone wriggles for that extra armor too.
And why ignite :x If you grabbed heal, or cleanse or exhaust, you could have also saved yourself.
Because I had Soraka for healing in lane and they only had two hard CCs. Why would you build attack speed if you’re not going to auto attack? That’s the only thing Cait can do late game because once you get to more than 1.3 attacks per second using any of your abilities actually lowers your DPS even if you hit two people with your Q.
I never got the chance to stand still and auto attack because my team had no CC. If you get the chance to safely stand still and auto attack as a ranged carry that’s how you do the most damage. Especially with Caitlyn. Moving lowers your damage output. If I was Ashe maybe I would run around and kite but with Caitlyn the only reason I’ll move is if I’m in danger or my target moves out of range.
Again though, not the point of this post.
Just because you’re laning with a Soraka, doesn’t mean you’re going to be able to rely on her throughout a team fight when she has four others to worry about. Tryn and Udyr weren’t laning against you and they still destroyed you. LANING PHASE SO IMPORTANT. LET’S NOT BUILD ANYTHING TO HELP DURING TEAM FIGHTS.
Not.. auto..attack? What are you doing. Really. Why would you not auto attack as an AD carry, just why. You don’t need to STAND STILL. Have you never tried kiting before? Who the fuck stands still? You should constantly be positioning yourself while timing it between your autos.
And getting a PD would increase your movement speed anyways to help with that.
“Have you never tried kiting before? Who the fuck stands still? You should constantly be positioning yourself while timing it between your autos. “
“If I was Ashe maybe I would run around and kite” That was literally in the post you were responding to.
“Just because you’re laning with a Soraka, doesn’t mean you’re going to be able to rely on her throughout a team fight when she has four others to worry about.”
I wasn’t relying on her heals in team fights I was relying on them in lane. Late game team fights heal is practically worthless compared to other summoners you could take because it would only make Tryn have to hit me one extra time.
“Tryn and Udyr weren’t laning against you and they still destroyed you. LANING PHASE SO IMPORTANT. LET’S NOT BUILD ANYTHING TO HELP DURING TEAM FIGHTS.”
Laning phase is important. Tryn and Udry kicked my ass because they got fed as fuck in lane. Tryn was against Morde who went 2|10 but you’re right, that had nothing to do with him being so strong. Caps lock doesn’t make you correct, it only makes you loud. I built damage to help during team fights. Q hits multiple targets. Also blood thirster allowed me to leave a fight when I got low, kill a jungle camp, and come back to the fight with almost full health twice in this game so I think it helped with team fights plenty.
“Not.. auto..attack? What are you doing. Really. Why would you not auto attack as an AD carry, just why.”
Now you’re just making things up. I never said I wouldn’t auto attack. I specifically said actually that using skills instead of auto attacking lowers your damage on Cait.
Why are you getting so upset over a game you weren’t even in?
Oh yeah, and for the fifth time. That’s not what this post is even about.
You don’t always kite only on Ashe, dumbass. You can kite with Cait’s net slow + her massive range, and with a PD you can run run run away from the two fed people chasing you.. and they weren’t even that fed. Caps lock use is irrelevant, you built 175 AD with no attack speed/crit to back it up, which ends up with you doing no damage at all.
Whether or not you hit your Q is besides the point, because literally every single one of the enemy team can heal that 300 damage nuke back up in one spell/autoattack.
The point I was trying to make was, and follow me on this one, you dumb cunt:
IE + Vamp + PD / BT + PD WILL make you do more damage than IE + BT. That is all. The extra movement speed to kite the ‘fed’ Udyr and Tryndamere is also helpful.
And honestly, exhaust / cleanse / heal is better than ignite in so many ways on an AD carry, unless you’re king pick Trist. Or Graves. And Caitlyn is neither. With that build, your midgame damage is shit.
Caitlyn is not a mid game champion at all, she will dominate lane phase, be a bit worse mid game, and come back to be a god late game, due to her insane range and poke ability. You’re just setting yourself up for a terrible midgame with no AS and no crit.
And just so you know, Lollicon’s opinion is better than yours, you dumb slut.
“IE + Vamp + PD / BT + PD WILL make you do more damage than IE + BT.”
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on a second. You’re trying to tell me that an Infinity Edge plus a Blood Thirster plus a Phantom Dancer will do more damage than just an Infinity Edge and a Blood Thirster? OMG I HAD NO FUCKING IDEA THANK YOU FOR THE TIP!!!! More items is better than less items guys. Pro tip.
If you can kite four people(MF and Nid were focusing me too not JUST the fed Tryn and Udry) with one skill that slows one person I would love to know how you do it.
Calling me a cunt and a slut. Classy and relevant. Good to know you’re arguing with a clear head and your judgement isn’t clouded by internet rage.
