I don’t understand people sometimes. Soraka is blaming me for this loss because I just farmed in lane. She blames me for only doing slightly better than MF instead of stomping her into the ground. She didn’t say anything about Morde feeding Tryn 4 kills in 15 minutes and not calling mias which lost us mid lane as well. Nope, all my fault for not doing anything but farm.
Edit: I was 4|1|2 at the end of laning and my first trip back to base I had over 3k gold.
>league builds
>ad carry build has Infinity Edge AND Bloodthirster with no attack speed.
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I got attack speed boots and my next item was going to be phantom dancer. This was only a 25-30 minute game.
PD is better as 2nd item, because attack speed and crit are multiplicative stats and damage is additive. Plus, you activate your passive faster with attack speed.
The only hard CC on our team was Ahris charm. My traps can snare and Shaco can fear with boxes but that’s only if the enemy walks into them. Chances are I’m not going to get to sit still and auto attack because Ahris charm can’t stop both a fed Tryn and a fed Udyr who are rushing straight for me. I was going to take some damage in fights because our team didn’t have anybody who could stop them from doing it so life steal and I wasn’t going to get to stand still and auto attack constantly so I’d rather do more damage when I do get to attack and with my Q and R.
Also my skills as an AD carry (which I have admitted and will continue to admit is my worst role) aren’t the point of this post. The point is that Soraka was calling me bad because I was farming in lane instead of being super aggressive.
Who stands still and autoattacks as an AD carry?..
Of course you’re going to get caught like that.
And you coulda just grabbed the vamp scepter and built up PD, or even gone wriggles for that extra armor too.
And why ignite :x If you grabbed heal, or cleanse or exhaust, you could have also saved yourself.
Because I had Soraka for healing in lane and they only had two hard CCs. Why would you build attack speed if you’re not going to auto attack? That’s the only thing Cait can do late game because once you get to more than 1.3 attacks per second using any of your abilities actually lowers your DPS even if you hit two people with your Q.
I never got the chance to stand still and auto attack because my team had no CC. If you get the chance to safely stand still and auto attack as a ranged carry that’s how you do the most damage. Especially with Caitlyn. Moving lowers your damage output. If I was Ashe maybe I would run around and kite but with Caitlyn the only reason I’ll move is if I’m in danger or my target moves out of range.
Again though, not the point of this post.
Just because you’re laning with a Soraka, doesn’t mean you’re going to be able to rely on her throughout a team fight when she has four others to worry about. Tryn and Udyr weren’t laning against you and they still destroyed you. LANING PHASE SO IMPORTANT. LET’S NOT BUILD ANYTHING TO HELP DURING TEAM FIGHTS.
Not.. auto..attack? What are you doing. Really. Why would you not auto attack as an AD carry, just why. You don’t need to STAND STILL. Have you never tried kiting before? Who the fuck stands still? You should constantly be positioning yourself while timing it between your autos.
And getting a PD would increase your movement speed anyways to help with that.
“Have you never tried kiting before? Who the fuck stands still? You should constantly be positioning yourself while timing it between your autos. “
“If I was Ashe maybe I would run around and kite” That was literally in the post you were responding to.
“Just because you’re laning with a Soraka, doesn’t mean you’re going to be able to rely on her throughout a team fight when she has four others to worry about.”
I wasn’t relying on her heals in team fights I was relying on them in lane. Late game team fights heal is practically worthless compared to other summoners you could take because it would only make Tryn have to hit me one extra time.
“Tryn and Udyr weren’t laning against you and they still destroyed you. LANING PHASE SO IMPORTANT. LET’S NOT BUILD ANYTHING TO HELP DURING TEAM FIGHTS.”
Laning phase is important. Tryn and Udry kicked my ass because they got fed as fuck in lane. Tryn was against Morde who went 2|10 but you’re right, that had nothing to do with him being so strong. Caps lock doesn’t make you correct, it only makes you loud. I built damage to help during team fights. Q hits multiple targets. Also blood thirster allowed me to leave a fight when I got low, kill a jungle camp, and come back to the fight with almost full health twice in this game so I think it helped with team fights plenty.
“Not.. auto..attack? What are you doing. Really. Why would you not auto attack as an AD carry, just why.”
Now you’re just making things up. I never said I wouldn’t auto attack. I specifically said actually that using skills instead of auto attacking lowers your damage on Cait.
Why are you getting so upset over a game you weren’t even in?
Oh yeah, and for the fifth time. That’s not what this post is even about.
Why would you build attack speed if you’re not going to auto attack?
Not going to auto attack, right there.
When I asked about why you didn’t build vamp or wriggles or take cleanse/heal/exhaust because you were getting owned in teamfights, you replied
Because I had Soraka for healing in lane and they only had two hard CCs.
When did I say NOT to build BT? Did you see everyone suggest to get BT + PD instead of IE first? I don’t understand how I’m getting ‘upset’ over your game, when everyone’s just trying to tell you an alternative and more successful build and you keep arguing against us.
“Not going to auto attack, right there.”
For fucks sake that we me questioning you saying that it’s dumb to stand still and auto attack as an AD carry. As in YOU are saying not to auto attack constantly but to also build attack speed. I was already attacking more than once per second. I had no need to build attack speed because if I was moving between attacks which I said is what I was forced to do I would be able to attack every time I wanted to stop regardless of any extra attack speed I had.
You said build PD after your first item which was IE. I bought IE flat out on my first trip back to base because I was so farmed. I wasn’t aware that I was in the situation of my top lane over extending repeatedly and getting fed on by post lvl6 Tryn and Udyr.
